tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post5264064914430348625..comments2015-11-01T13:29:11.260-08:00Comments on Lee's 6th Hour Honors American Lit. 09-10: Fishbowl over "The Lottery"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger113125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-38889351868880718372009-11-03T13:07:55.873-08:002009-11-03T13:07:55.873-08:00Mary Catherine-It is interesting that you brought ...Mary Catherine-It is interesting that you brought up community as you would think that this would be important to them. However, I would think in a community the people would value eachother more especially since it seems to be such a small interconnected community. This is one of the most interesting things about this story.Paula20012https://www.blogger.com/profile/00354334005843421066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-61825107015889905872009-11-03T13:07:26.722-08:002009-11-03T13:07:26.722-08:00Shirley Jackson wrote this story in 1948 at the en...Shirley Jackson wrote this story in 1948 at the end of World War 2 and the onset of the spread of the red and the cold war. Is this a message from Jackson to show that communism should end its spread just like th lottery? It might be stretching it but it might just be right?bens2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/04031603947493854616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-44747742956045005792009-11-03T13:07:08.271-08:002009-11-03T13:07:08.271-08:00Kailyn: In response to your question (a long time ...Kailyn: In response to your question (a long time ago :) I think that in some cases fear can be a good thing. Take the quote "Fear is a great motivator." Look at what happened after 9-11. Our country better prepared for a possible future attack ( the airports; i.e.) So I think that occasionally fear can be a good thing.Megg2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/09034799130766467791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-16364314295484592072009-11-03T13:06:21.336-08:002009-11-03T13:06:21.336-08:00Ben M- This reminds me of Lord of the Flies and ho...Ben M- This reminds me of Lord of the Flies and how the author uses the spears and the pig to show how savage the human nature is. Also, I think stoning relates to the old times so it shows the primitiveness of it all.brianf2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/01936013712721749896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-37461010359282236772009-11-03T13:05:58.653-08:002009-11-03T13:05:58.653-08:00Responding to the inner circle's disscussion, ...Responding to the inner circle's disscussion, they chose to make the box black because black is a morbid color. However, over time, it has been worn to the original wood, which shows it no longer is regarded so morbidly amoung the town.madibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04188838740496487344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-19933154525256383492009-11-03T13:05:39.590-08:002009-11-03T13:05:39.590-08:00Kelsey, hmm... I think you are right too. This co...Kelsey, hmm... I think you are right too. This concept seems weird at first glance; but it makes sense.kailynw2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/08482719947306738508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-51398884518130371202009-11-03T13:05:20.097-08:002009-11-03T13:05:20.097-08:00The inner circle mentioned cultural anxieties of c...The inner circle mentioned cultural anxieties of change, but what other cultural anxieties are in this town?Haley P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11269860662533577237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-70513795630825300892009-11-03T13:05:10.110-08:002009-11-03T13:05:10.110-08:00Are coward and fear the same thing? because I beli...Are coward and fear the same thing? because I believe these people were cowards, not fearful.kelseyc2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/05404260920455905469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-88114238177713051092009-11-03T13:04:02.994-08:002009-11-03T13:04:02.994-08:00Brian C.- I think the older people of the village ...Brian C.- I think the older people of the village would be upset about being picked, but they wouldn't be upset about it because they'd seen so many die in the system. I think inside they would accept that they were still a part of the lottery and that they needed to contribute to the tradition they went through all their lives.Grant Cassellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08496270757438184443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-26993656707333384212009-11-03T13:03:38.269-08:002009-11-03T13:03:38.269-08:00Brain F, Stoning is a very simple yet primative wa...Brain F, Stoning is a very simple yet primative way of killing someone. The author may have just been trying to show us the barbareic nature of the village.benjaminmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06051200070763455649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-82925919579429593542009-11-03T13:03:36.452-08:002009-11-03T13:03:36.452-08:00Kailyn: I think you are right. Perhaps this story ...Kailyn: I think you are right. Perhaps this story is not emphasising the consequense of fear, but the consequenses of the lack of it.kelseyc2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/05404260920455905469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-41256287093234614612009-11-03T13:03:15.426-08:002009-11-03T13:03:15.426-08:00Grant-- When I think of this, I think of the Civil...Grant-- When I think of this, I think of the Civil Rights Movement. The fact that both sides were represented in this fight (affected and unaffected) is proof that something was going very wrong. Obviously, if something is corrupt in the system and you get the brunt end of it, you will protest. But if others get involved that are not negatively effected, it shows that change needs to happen.Ally Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05686630097209087025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-72488950549706846252009-11-03T13:03:14.799-08:002009-11-03T13:03:14.799-08:00Mary Catherine -- It was very strange how there wa...Mary Catherine -- It was very strange how there was only relief and no grief for Mrs. Hutchinson, even in the family. There definitely was an impractical reaction for the son to his mother. I think this was done on purpose, kind of in a satire way.MelissaChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05984912841871707447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-6599632552087941372009-11-03T13:02:50.585-08:002009-11-03T13:02:50.585-08:00Haley- I think that tradition plays a huge part in...Haley- I think that tradition plays a huge part in this "game". From what we can tell this has been going on for a long time. Also, they seemed to believe that it would help with the harvest, and if it seems to help the people would probably be more likely to keep it as a tradition.DrewS.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03239609104823561950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-27150717431600668442009-11-03T13:02:43.514-08:002009-11-03T13:02:43.514-08:00Sydney: People seek connection and community, some...Sydney: People seek connection and community, something which brings us together. This is portrayed in the town's unity as a single movement. However, there must be a balance of individuals and groups. When people feel they are suppressed or weakened or have lost their individual value, they seek something of which to be in charge. Also, the imbalance of what is good in man and what is bad leads to neuroses such as 'the lottery'.Mary Catherine M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05061331038509626014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-50687341317862746292009-11-03T13:02:18.578-08:002009-11-03T13:02:18.578-08:00Brian- I believe Shirley Jackson choose death by s...Brian- I believe Shirley Jackson choose death by stoning becuase it shows that the villagers are willing to watch their family and friends die, and help kill them as well. It shows their blind obediance to this tradition.sarahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16821798791564849812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-14658676538052646152009-11-03T13:02:11.946-08:002009-11-03T13:02:11.946-08:00Ben-Maybe, but it seems like if other towns were g...Ben-Maybe, but it seems like if other towns were giving up this tradition and even some in the town were bringing this up, the culture might be changing.Paula20012https://www.blogger.com/profile/00354334005843421066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-81913365387710181412009-11-03T13:02:08.123-08:002009-11-03T13:02:08.123-08:00Brian- The fact that jackson uses stoning as the w...Brian- The fact that jackson uses stoning as the wat of acrifice could show the ancient roots of the tradition, also, it could also show that this story was set in wayyy older timesbens2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/04031603947493854616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-82215576794492757142009-11-03T13:01:59.121-08:002009-11-03T13:01:59.121-08:00Brian- I think that the author chose this way to k...Brian- I think that the author chose this way to kill them because he was trying to create the sentiment of everyone participating. Everyone gathers to witness it. Everyone draws a slip. Everyone helps to kill, which can be acheived by stoning.madibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04188838740496487344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-25751243941526801192009-11-03T13:01:55.462-08:002009-11-03T13:01:55.462-08:00Kelsey- Yes that's a good point. Do you think ...Kelsey- Yes that's a good point. Do you think the reason that more brutal punishment for weakness in this story is used to slap us all in the face with how our pride can sometimes cloud our view of reality?SydneyR2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/17159159326284898424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-40354441104347836462009-11-03T13:01:26.837-08:002009-11-03T13:01:26.837-08:00Kelsey, ha ha - you are right... even though that ...Kelsey, ha ha - you are right... even though that is not how I think that majority see fear. It alost seems that the people in this story don't have enough fear then; if they were more fearfull purhaps this bizarre tradition would be more scorned. Perhaps, Jackson is emphasizing the importance of fear. (weird concept)kailynw2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/08482719947306738508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-20175593977118641482009-11-03T13:01:25.559-08:002009-11-03T13:01:25.559-08:00In relation to the inner circle, i disagree with t...In relation to the inner circle, i disagree with their thought of the story being sexist. The men drew, because they are traditionally regarded as the head of the family, even today when sexism is practically illegal, -although still prcticed by bigots- and then they treated the husband or wife who lost the same. the idea of sexism in the lottery is foolish, but in normal life, it seems like a town in the old west, where men were valued more, yes, but , like the lottery, it was more tradition than sexism.Brian Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04138729765581708714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-82664816252464581782009-11-03T13:01:10.345-08:002009-11-03T13:01:10.345-08:00Would the older people in the village be mad about...Would the older people in the village be mad about being picked even though they have seen so many die by this system?Brianc2012https://www.blogger.com/profile/05760682201764569685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-33780959378450612862009-11-03T13:01:00.718-08:002009-11-03T13:01:00.718-08:00Mary Catherine-I dont think when they were calling...Mary Catherine-I dont think when they were calling out the names they were referring to people they thought deserved it. I think this was done simply because their were few families in the town and they were just calling out well known families.Paula20012https://www.blogger.com/profile/00354334005843421066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-773596680002332928.post-57919148938073340902009-11-03T13:00:22.900-08:002009-11-03T13:00:22.900-08:00Brian F.- It was probably a tradition because it h...Brian F.- It was probably a tradition because it has been around for several years, and they weren't up for changing tradition.Grant Cassellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08496270757438184443noreply@blogger.com